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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166913965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166913965">(May 30 2019 at 14:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1411">@T-lang/WG-meta</span> -- so there is a meeting scheduled for today in ~20 minutes. I've not had time to spend a lot of time thinking about agenda. I note at the end of our last meeting we wrote:</p>
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<li>Some things we didn’t talk about and could talk about:<br>
    - “overall WG procedure”<br>
    - how to have controversial conversations<br>
        - conflict resolution<br>
    - how to manage deeply technical conversations<br>
    - how do we select what to do and when<br>
        - scheduling breaks, cadence of features<br>
            - how much is it ok to miss things :)<br>
    - do we want formal staging mechanism and what is it<br>
        - (and can we skip steps where appropriate)<br>
    - when/how should a working group end</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914073">(May 30 2019 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking a starting place for discussion might be to discuss the idea of "staged rfcs" and how we might incorporate that into things that we're doing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914084">(May 30 2019 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm kind of casting about for "how can we start to move towards concrete proposals'</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914091">(May 30 2019 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> are we using Zoom?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914258" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914258">(May 30 2019 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, still the plan</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914527" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914527">(May 30 2019 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like I never uploaded the video from last week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914574">(May 30 2019 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>er, last meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166914578" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166914578">(May 30 2019 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>no good reason for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166915115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yoshua Wuyts <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166915115">(May 30 2019 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey! I forgot to cancel; I'm in no position to take meetings today. I'll be<br>
back next on next week!</p>
<p>—Yosh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166915146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166915146">(May 30 2019 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> hope I got the right zoom <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166915277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166915277">(May 30 2019 at 15:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>What's the zoom link?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166915325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166915325">(May 30 2019 at 15:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://mozilla.zoom.us/j/671960607" target="_blank" title="https://mozilla.zoom.us/j/671960607">https://mozilla.zoom.us/j/671960607</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/166915351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#166915351">(May 30 2019 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>also here is a <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Meta-WG-2019.05.30--AeGWtRoMg~qSscgukh06wLjQAg-LDdfyvbumDoluMHyfkJGX" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Meta-WG-2019.05.30--AeGWtRoMg~qSscgukh06wLjQAg-LDdfyvbumDoluMHyfkJGX">dropbox paper link</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/167070985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#167070985">(Jun 01 2019 at 12:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey everyone, I've written a <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Meta-WG-Meeting-Summary-2019.05.30--AePMtg3TxGDF9eZzOEiGiIwdAg-OcKQCBMH4WBfKI4QEmqCk" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Meta-WG-Meeting-Summary-2019.05.30--AePMtg3TxGDF9eZzOEiGiIwdAg-OcKQCBMH4WBfKI4QEmqCk">summary of the meeting</a>, mainly focused around the stage process we discussed.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/167203069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#167203069">(Jun 03 2019 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> ah, great, thanks! Maybe you can open a PR against <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/blob/master/working-groups/meta/minutes/2019.05.30.md" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/blob/master/working-groups/meta/minutes/2019.05.30.md">https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/blob/master/working-groups/meta/minutes/2019.05.30.md</a> to improve it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/167203113" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#167203113">(Jun 03 2019 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>also cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="211722">@Yoshua Wuyts</span> -- you were talking about catching up on the meeting, you may be interested in <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Meta-WG-Meeting-Summary-2019.05.30--AePMtg3TxGDF9eZzOEiGiIwdAg-OcKQCBMH4WBfKI4QEmqCk" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Meta-WG-Meeting-Summary-2019.05.30--AePMtg3TxGDF9eZzOEiGiIwdAg-OcKQCBMH4WBfKI4QEmqCk">the summary that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> wrote</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting%202019.05.30/near/167334543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yoshua Wuyts <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196563-t-lang/meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E05.2E30.html#167334543">(Jun 04 2019 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, excellent -- thanks for the link!<br>
— Yosh</p>



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